The Recyclists How Managers Can Help Communities Go Green

The Recyclists

When it comes to how co-op and condo communities navigate the race to address climate change, a goal like switching to 100 percent renewable energy may seem too tall an order. On the other hand, simply recycling household glass, paper, and plastic products is low-hanging fruit. Even so — and with landfills brimming with reusable products despite plenty of local ordinances designed to encourage recycling — getting residents to actually sort their trash for collection can feel like an uphill battle for boards and managers. 

In a condo or homeowners’ association, a gentle push in the right direction can sometimes come from a property manager who’s particularly committed to reducing his or her client communities’ environmental impact. The Cooperator spoke with a handful of managers in various markets who have encouraged or facilitated an array of eco-friendly programs in their associations to help spread the message of recycling.

The Green Apple

Victor Berrios formerly managed a 620-unit co-op in the Bronx, and turned a building that once met the idea of recycling with a collective shrug into a lean, mean, green-conscious machine.

TC: What was the situation at the property like when you originally took the reins?

VB: Come recycling day, I’d see a porter put out a single bag of bottles and cans on the curb. We put out more than that at my house, and it’s just me, my wife, and two kids. So I wound up reaching out to a not-for-profit called GrowNYC. They assist with recycling efforts, and promote and teach conservation. We held classes for building staff, and during open shareholder meetings. For the latter, we’d have giveaways to encourage participation. You have to incentivize these things.”

Did things pick up?

We eventually had a mountain of recyclables. The Department of Sanitation had to reconfigure its assignment because of the amount of time our pick-up was taking. They used to pop by for five seconds, grab a bag, and move on. That eventually increased to 40 minutes, visiting two different recycling pads at either end of the complex.

What other initiatives did you work on?

We had gardens throughout the development — small flower beds. The property is four buildings across 12 acres, so it was basically a little park on a square block. It’s beautiful. I’d bought a chipper-shredder so they could shred clipped branches and the like and make their own mulch. I basically incentivized staff to think greener by giving them new equipment to play with.

Where did you find the motivation to push these projects?

I just enjoy it. I have a garden at home. I have chickens. I’m that guy.

When I was a kid, I’d go fishing under the Whitestone Bridge in Throggs Neck with my dad, and we’d catch snappers right off the edge of the water. You could fill a bucket in 20 minutes. 

Now I have children, and I took them to that very spot. We spent a whole day and came back with two fish. I’d considered that it was just bad luck, or the wrong tide, so we returned a few weeks later. Nothing. I started talking to the other people out there, reminiscing about how things were years ago, before the pollution or this thing or another. And I think that’s what did it for me, at that point: the knowledge sinking in that my kids would not enjoy the same things living here I did with my dad.

Compostable New England

Vermont has a reputation for being environmentally conscious as a rule, so it’s no surprise that the state is gung ho when it comes to composting. In fact, by 2020, Green Mountain State natives will be legally required to separate organic food waste from trash and recyclables. Marian Servidio, owner of The Park Place Management Company in Burlington, Vermont, weighs in on how her properties are responding to this initiative. 

TC: What sort of properties do you manage, and how have they generally received this composting mandate?

MS: We have a mix of mid-rise buildings with attached parking garages — which is where they keep their trash totes — as well as townhouse-style, four- or six-unit buildings that run for maybe a mile in a big development. And we’re trying to get ahead of the composting mandate by issuing non-mandatory programs throughout our developments now. To that end, we work with our service providers — and they’ve been really great at coming to our meetings and providing literature, as well as separate composting totes.

One thing to note, though, is that our associations are actually paying to have this composting service done, on top of our normal trash service. But everybody seems to appreciate that it’s very much worth doing, even though it’s an additional expense and a lot more work. They’ve embraced it. It starts out slow; first we get the tote out there, and maybe it only fills up 25 percent. But it catches on. Now, at my mid-rise buildings, we might see as many as four totes that get emptied weekly. That said, it can be a challenge to keep people invested. It takes some marketing.

It can be hard to see the short-term reward for such an investment.

Well, in Vermont, oftentimes you’re charged for trash pick-up based on weight. So the carrot we’re using is, if the associations can train themselves to compost, a lot of their trash and rubbish fees will go down, in addition to the fact that they’re doing a good thing for the earth. Because the heaviest thing in your trash is the food.

So the biggest task an owner or shareholder would have to undertake is really just sorting out their compostable waste from trash and recycling?

Right. They don’t have to handle too much, churn it up, stir it or add to it. We had done that years ago at one property, and we ended up with more compost than we could use. We didn’t know where to put all that soil. So I think that this works much better. The compost goes to a central hub here in the city where they process it, bag it and resell it as soil.”

Did you have boards prior to the mandate that were enthused about this stuff?

I have a downtown mid-rise that’s always on the cutting edge. They want to look into solar, but they’ve been thus far hesitant due to the age of their membrane roof. But they’re always looking at alternative energy and assorted ways to be green stewards.

All of these efforts started last year, which was three years out from the mandate, which I think demonstrates that the associations have a healthy interest in taking care of things. 

We have one tiny development with 38 units that didn’t really have a convenient place to put a compost tote — which isn’t particularly attractive in and of itself. But this community — which mostly consists of elderly people — really embraced it. They put a committee together to educate each other about what’s compostable. Here in Vermont you can put bones, meat scraps... you can compost a lot of things that you wouldn’t include in a home composting program. 

And this group of older people...they all watch each other and coach each other, send each other little notifications. They’re really into it. They were so excited when we rolled it out. They put this big green tote right by their mailboxes, near a little park bench and some trees, which I thought was pretty bold! It’s important to them, and they really embraced it aesthetically.

Windy City Reuse

Jim Stoller, President and CEO of The Building Group in Chicago, takes recycling seriously on both a business and personal level. The Cooperator chatted with him to assess the lay of the Chicagoland area.

TC: How do your various properties embrace recycling?

JS: Well, one thing I’ve found is that the different associations that we manage have different levels of interest, recycling-wise. Some will do the minimum required by the city — which is to recycle paper and plastics — while others are very excited about it. We’ll set up committees to oversee the recycling of a multitude of products. There’s a recycling center in Chicago where people drop off everything, including batteries and electronics. So everything depends on the association’s level of interest at the internal level, but we are always ready to work with them if they want to step up their initiatives. Because we encourage our staff to recycle at our own headquarters. We work with green cleaning products. We’re trying to be the green management company.

Is there any correlation between resident demographic and recycling enthusiasm?

It’s definitely not age-related, I can say that. We have people young and old who are into recycling, and some don’t care at all. I don’t find it economically stratified either; it really just depends on the interest of individuals.

When there is interest, who usually spearheads the initiatives?

“We talk about recycling with our boards, but even when they have the drive to push further than the city’s required minimum, a lot of it is dependent on whether they have the space to do more. Because you need to designate an area for batteries and computers and other products, and some buildings are constrained, so there’s just not the space to do it. 

But in some buildings, like our Clinton Street Loft, for example, we had the space in the loading area of the garage, so we set up an elaborate recycling system, and we’ve seen a lot of interest from residents in that building, so it’s a nice communal activity. 

As a business owner, from where does your inspiration to encourage recycling initiatives stem?

It’s not really a business decision, for me. It’s more a moral decision. I’ve been green for 30 years. I have solar panels on my house. And it’s always the way we’ve run our business. We’re always looking at ways to save money while being more environmentally friendly. Our approach to evaluating systems is to ask if they’re cost effective; if it’s something we believe in, morally; is [it] something good for the environment? Are we leaving the world better than we found it?

Mike Odenthal is a staff writer/reporter for The Cooperator. 

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Comments

  • At my 12-unit coop building recycling is an obscure concept for the majority of the residents. When I worked the trash there I had to sort out what people didn’t want to sort out, which caused me to do additional work I wasn’t paid to do, which in turn forced me to cut in other work, in order to make up for it. I’ve told the people what they needed to do, but they always insisted, they would employ scammers arguments and say things like “Why I need to recycle if nobody else recycles?” or say “sure. ok”, but continue mixing everything up. The majority of the people who don’t want to follow the recycling rules, and don’t care about the environment in general, also want to have children. For what, I ask myself, so that their children may inherit the filth? The current management doesn’t sort out what the residents mix and pretends to be following the recycling rules. Investors, instead of providing real benefits, like providing a working a/c, working windows, or handle their unit’s plumbing needs, provide a cheap apparent benefit to their sub-tenants by saying “at this building you have the luxury benefit of not having to follow the recycling rules, so be happy” to entice the prospective sub-tenants to rent the units. The sanitation department cannot make it to inspect what is happening when you report it. Enforcement is desperately needed at this co-op.